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wait a second. Witness ST one once you've got a cushion. But his chair. Absolutely. How do you do, Ladies and gentlemen, For the past 12 years, while we've been putting on these programs, one of the great pleasures that I've had each year is to have a program in which my son, on which they start over again, a positive.

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What about but save one? Take two scatters. During these past 12 years, while we have been carrying on these television and radio programs, one of the great pleasures that I've had each year is to have one which my sons appeared. It's obvious at this time that we can't have both my sons on this program because my oldest boy is already in the Navy serving off Vietnam.

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But I'm delighted to have my young son Bruce, and you can see from his attire that it looks like he won't be with us for much longer to make these kinds of programs. Bruce, tell us ah, what you're doing and where you're going. So technically right now I am.

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I am on active duty. Report to my duty station in the next five days. And what are you going to do? Well. I have applied for underwater demolition team work. I will be going to Coronado, California, for a six month intensive training program. I hope that I make this approximately one in five people who do apply.

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Make it. Well, now, why do you want to go into underwater demolition? This is something your mother and I've been curious about and wondered about for a long time. Well, so this is a very specialized area of the United States Navy. It's an area which I believe has one of the highest speed accord of all the units in the United States Navy.

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And I would like to be a member of this particular unit. Well, I think that's of course, commendable. But as you know, your mom and I haven't yet proven that we got to do what? You're the man to make the decision. Let me ask you this Now, how long will you be in the service?

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I should be in approximately 2.5 years. Six months of that. As I said, we'll be training and then two years active service after that. What do you expect to do after you get out of the service. Well, after the service, my plans are still somewhat indefinite.

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I hope to attend law school. I'm thinking very seriously of the University of Florida. And as things stand now, I shall probably attend there. Now, I should have told these good people, which I didn't that you just graduated from Yale a few weeks ago. We were all very proud.

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You graduated cum laude. Now, you don't think that you'll go back up east of your law school? You think you will go to Florida? Very definitely, sir. As it stands now, Bruce, give us your view is to what you think about our policy. The United States is policy in Vietnam.

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You're one of the young men who are going out there and obviously have to participate in this war. What do you think about it? Are we doing the right thing or are we not doing the right thing? Given the present situation, I think that we can do nothing else but what we're trying to do.

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And that is to force the Communists into negotiations. I don't believe that we really want to be in there, but having committed ourselves and our forces I think we really have no choice but to remain there until either arrive at sort of an honorable negotiation or that we win the war.

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Do you think that we should step up on operation? There has been some suggestion that would now begin bombing up at Hanoi and even bomb if need be all the way into red China. What is your feeling about that? Well, so I think that we should take every measure necessary to in the war or to force them into negotiation.

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I would question the policy of bombing red China at the present moment because this would bring the danger of possibly World War Three. And I don't believe that it is necessary at the present time. But this may of course, be necessary later on. Do you feel that President Johnson, that is following a course which, as far as your concern is the exact course to follow that what you're saying?

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Well, given the information that I have, I would believe so I see nothing else which we could do at the present time. All right now, Bruce Tallis, a little more than a pleasant subject. Do you expect to see your brother while you're out there. Well, I'm I'm a my brother, as you know, a station in Yokosuka, Japan, and operates off the Vietnamese coast.

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If I am assigned to a unit in Japan, I would see him. But other than that, I probably would not see him for the two years that I'm out there. Well, just for a chance for the information of your friends and our friends, why don't you tell us when it looks like John is going to get out of the Navy?

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Well, we hope if things go well that he will be out within the year. Approximately next June. Alright. Well, Bruce, thank you very much. And I'm sure everybody joins with me and wishing you the very best of luck in this adventure and endeavour, which you're on.

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Good luck to you. Thank you very much, Ladies and gentlemen, for looking and listening in. I hope you're looking and listening again at the same time next week. Well, now, Bruce, let's go back to this so called underwater demolition. Is that the same thing as a frog man?

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Practically so, sir. It's an extension of the frogmen concept of World War two. Not only do underwater demolition teams blow up man made and natural obstacles leading to a beach as they did in World War Two, they also are now given assignments such as going into harbors, blowing up ships, reconnaissance of enemy beaches even to the effect of being dropped behind enemy lines to attack particular installations, which they do not believe it would be worthwhile to attack with planes.

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Do you have to jump out of airplanes? Yes, sir. This is one of the means of delivering an underwater demolition team to see behind enemy lines if it is necessary. And you might tell these people Have you already been jumping out of airplanes? Sir, I went out of an airplane twice.

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This is more to see whether I could just do it. Since I had volunteered for this program, you obviously took a parachute with You. Obviously took two parachutes with me, sir. All right, well, Bruce, let's shift off of that a bit. Well, first, let me one other question.

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How many are in your units? Sort of. Give us a Is it a large group of fellows or how do they? How do they do this? It's a fairly small, select group that two teams on both coasts. Each team is composed of approximately 100 20 members, and a ensign would have perhaps 10 men under him.

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And then they deploy, though in any combination of numbers or units, they can deploy as three men teams that employs a complete 120 man team. Well, that's good. Now you still have to make the grade that right? Yes, sir. This is the big question standing in front of me Right now, approximately 80% of the boys who do try out for this program do not make it so.

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It's There's somewhat of a question as to whether I will make it finally if you don't make it. And as I say, your mother and I are really for you with this one place, we don't like to care whether you make it or not would be very happy if you didn't.

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But if you don't make it, then what do you do? Are you out of the Navy, or do you go into some other aspect of naval work so well, If I did not make one of the underwater demolition teams, I would then reapply, probably for a destroyer with the Seventh Fleet, and you hopefully might get stationed even on John Ship.

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Well, I don't know whether I want to be stationed on John's ship since that he is senior to me. But I wouldn't mind being stationed in the same area that John was. I don't know. John's been senior. Do you? Ever since you are both little Children had me.

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It's been a long time now, and this is what I'm trying to end. Alright. Well, Bruce, last you have to some other areas of discussion. You just recently graduated from Yale University. As we said, What? What do you How do you view these riots of these young college kids that we saw happening on the Unfortunately, on the Fourth of July, almost all over the United States.

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What do you think it is? What's it as an expression of what are these kids trying to accomplish? That's a difficult question to answer. You could just look at it and say that this is an expression of youthful exuberance, but in some respects, I think it may go a little bit further than that.

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I think that there has been a breakdown of. I was reading one article which turned it moral authority. And I think that a lot of these kids, well, when they're 16, 17, 18 years old, perhaps there's some excuse. But when they get into their twenties, I don't believe that this sort of conduct can be excused.

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I think that what is actually needed a little bit more guidance, perhaps on the family's part and by society in itself. I think that they should crack down on these. I don't think that they can just excuse these as child's play. Bruce, do you think that generally the churches and the schools are doing enough to teach young people respect for law and order or not?

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That's difficult to answer. I think that there doing a good job, I would I think the main emphasis should be in the family itself, and I think that this is a matter of authority and leadership of the parents, because that's where the ultimate authority groundwork is laid and the schools and the churches are just an extension of this.

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Bruce, what do you think generally about the education programs that we have got lined up for our young people today. Do you think that they're there to specific? These days? We're getting into quality programs with respect to business or whatever their life works going to be and not enough with respect to philosophy and morals and religion.

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Things of that nature That's a once again. I hate to say, That's a difficult question. It is. Our society is expanding. And as it experience, we need more specialized people. I don't think that you have to sacrifice a general broad education while still giving a man a specialist field.

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I think that some in some colleges this maybe so. The university, which I went to the of course gave us a very broad liberal arts background. And I think that this is an important background. But then, of course, we also need to specialization. Alright. Well, Bruce, thank you very much.

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I see that our time is up. I hope we'll have you back on this program pretty soon. Certainly. Within the next 2.5 years. Everybody wishes you best as I do. Thank you very much for being on. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, for listening. And I hope you're listening again at this same time next week.