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on today's report from Washington, Senator Smathers discusses domestic and foreign problems of interest to the people of Florida and the nation. Now here is the first question despite is now that the Senate has invoked closure and gagged the members of the Senate from speaking any further, I'd like to know, of course, how you voted.

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Well, of course I voted against closure. 29 of us did. Uh huh, I thought that we might be able to defeat it, although it was rather evident that they would not have introduced the coach of petition if they didn't feel that they had the closure vote.

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So they won. And this is the sixth time in the history of the Senate that they have adopted coach for the first time in coach has ever been adopted on the civil rights bill. However, now what does this mean? As far as the procedures in the Senate is concerned, every senator is now limited to speak one hour and that the time is not transferable.

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For example, I could not give my time to Senator Holland or to Senator Russell. I can speak for an hour, even on all amendments. Now, there are over 500 amendments that are now pending. I have about 50 amendments to this so called Dirks and Mansfield substitute.

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What we will now do. We have already adopted a double jeopardy amendment. We're going to adopt some more amendments. I'm satisfied and improve the bill even further. We have debated this bill already up to this 0.70 for 75 days, and I frankly think it's all been well worthwhile because we've done a number of things.

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We have convinced people around the country. That is a very serious, far reaching piece of legislation. If, in fact we were so successful in that that Senator Dirksen from Illinois and Mansfield from Montana and humping from Minnesota and Kiko from California, they began to hear from their people to the point where they realized they could not take the original bill.

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It was as bad as we said it was. And so they have brought in the substitute, which modifies the original bill. In many major respects. However, I still could not vote for this substitute bill because I think once again it takes away rights of the majority of American citizens.

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I don't believe that you're going to remedy the situation with respect to the Negro citizens and minority groups by putting more laws on the books, the Constitution of the United States and the 14th and 15th Amendments and other amendments and other laws on our books already guaranteed to each of these citizens equal opportunities and equal rights.

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Now the reason they have not gotten them. And I'm perfectly willing to agree that there have been cases of discrimination and discrimination is bad, and we should try to eliminate it. But we don't eliminate it by just passing additional laws. And we're not going to help the situation by putting on the law books some laws which give to the attorney general of the United States and departments of the federal government the right to run people's private business and this particular law.

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If it finally passes even the substitute, we're going to see where the federal government will have the authority to move into the small businessman that we talk a lot about how we want to protect him and help him there Already. We say too many regulations against him as taxes are too heavy.

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We always want to help him. I'm on the Small Business Committee, and I know that many speeches that are made in behalf of the small businessman but the small businessman under this bill, it's going to find that he's not going to be able to employ those people that he wants to employ.

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He's not really going to be able to run his business the way. Actually, he wants to run it. He's going to have a government agent looking over his shoulder, second guessing him, telling him what's in his heart, saying You have discriminated or you haven't and how do they know this man may have no discrimination in his heart?

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He may want to hire All Baptist. He may want to hire all Jewish people. He may want to hire all Puerto Ricans, whatever the case is. But this legislation will no longer let him do that. So I think it's bad legislation, but we're still going to try to amend it under this procedure of culture, which were now operating under, which means you'll probably come to a final vote and how many days I would imagine that we will debate this for another, possibly a week or 10 days, and that What will happen is that pretty soon the leadership will make the motion to table and they will begin to shout down our amendments.

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But I do think that we can improve the substitute even beyond the point which it's now improved. Thank you very much, Senator George Smathers, this man. There's a lot of these very radical civil rights leaders have indicated that even though the bill is passed or a bill has passed, they will continue with their sit downs, demonstrations and the violence that's going on in New York.

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Is that do you look at it in that way? But of course, I don't approve of why I say that this bill will not, fortunately have the effect that some people would hope that it would have, which is the quiet down and eliminate demonstrations. I think we're in for great series of demonstrations this summer, and I hope, naturally, sure, every civilized person hopes that they do not leave violence or bloodshed.

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Yeah, but on the other hand, there are those leaders who have repeatedly said that expect to keep demonstrating irrespective of any legislation which passed as one group which nation doesn't go far enough and I'm certain are some dream as leaders who are actually a profiteering out of kind of demonstration, which they're leading, and they actually make money out of it.

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They're not going to want to stop. It's a highly dangerous situation which we find, And I regret to say that I don't believe particular legislation. If tried to be, it's attempted to be implemented, is going to do anything other than to bring about even more more resentment because the white community south and throughout the nation ah, the rights bill is actually directed.

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This civil rights bill is directed against them because in most they are the ones who owned the businesses and who operate the hotels and motels and restaurants and so on when they begin to move in on them and require them first to serve people whom they don't particularly wished require white barbers wait on citizens when white barbers don't maybe not want to do it, it violates, in many respects, the 13th of men voluntary servitude because it makes a man serve wishes.

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When the attorney general and his minions begin to move in and tell people you may have to hire and fire and set up standards sort of thing. I think it's going to create resentment on the part of the white people out that rather than bringing about harmony and cooperation, I'm afraid it's going to result and more disunity and more division and more violent.

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And this is to be, of course, regretted. Isn't there a portion of that bill which actually legislates discrimination in regard to hearing certain court cases involving civil rights taking precedence over existing matters, which before the court that point has been argued considerably that the bill provides that the discrimination cases take precedence all over and over all other cases?

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The result widow could be suing will say, for example, the railroad trying to recover for some negligent back in the killing of her husband. He may need money. There's an exaggerated case, but it's a conceivable case, and yet her case is on appeal and you just got aside.

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While the determination is made with not one but many civil rights case with respect to discrimination. So in fact it's giving, as I've argued, what this bill does, certain people in our yeah states that gives to them superior right? It discriminates large majority of people by taking away their rights and providing right groups and classes of our citizens and thereby does not bring about equality in the terms that we ordinarily use that but off and on the contract them superior rights, which average citizen does not have.

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I think that it's a very bad bill. That being one of the reasons, How do you feel about the passage of the Morton amendment, which gave jury trials? Well, that's, of course, a desirable amendments. A matter of fact, I, Morton and I cooperated and drafting of the amendment, I would have offered it myself.

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But being a, I knew that I had no chance to pass. Uh huh. The amendment, which was finally adopted, was not unlike the original Morton Amendment, which was he did a couple of weeks ago by one vote. But this had some degree of sanity spill, and it does provide were called up before something.

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We'll have a Christian Kim first have the right to a trial by jury. This was an improvement, and I think we can make additions to legislate civil rights. Can you? I don't believe you can legislate morals. I don't believe that you can change the hearts and minds of people by putting laws on the books.

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This has to be done, as Dr Billy Graham says, churches and through voluntary organization in an effort to cooperative effort, realizing that we're all Uh huh. One, we're all in one brother under one common father, Thank you very much. Senator George Spiders on today's report from the nation's capital Senator George Smathers has with him.

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His two sons here is Senator Smathers. This is one of the programs that I enjoy making more than any other during the year. This opportunity. It gives me the opportunity of finding out what my sons are thinking, where I really don't have that opportunity on other occasions.

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John, you're graduating from Princeton next week as I understand it. Yes, that's correct. Tell us about how you feel about finally finishing up four years at a top school like that. Well, it's sort of a very frightening thought, because previous to this time, school has been the major obstacle between me and manhood.

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And now I've finished this obstacle. I'm here and it's sort of a very as I said, a very frightening experience. I'm looking forward to perhaps finding some other excuse for putting off the inevitable. Well, there's. I understand that you start your navy duty right away so you can't put off anything very long.

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Can you know, sir, I have about a month's freedom before I go in. Tell us about what duty you will serve in with the Navy. What duty you'll take? Well, I am part of the Naval Reserve program at my university. And this entails that I have been committed to spend two years with the Navy stationed in Yokosuka, Japan, aboard a destroyer.

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Are you with the seventh Fleet out there? Yes, sir. All right. Now, Bruce, tell us about yourself. Where are you and what year are you? And what do you expect to do, sir? I am a I'll be a senior at Yale University next year. I'm majoring in economics.

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I'm also in the ROTC program. And this summer, I'll be spending 40 days on the USS Perry out of Key West Florida. Well, that sounds like an interesting assignment out of Key West. Tell us, John, what are your ambitions and hopes after you get through with the Navy?

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Presumably I survived the war in Vietnam. I would like to go into the University of Florida Law School and there, graduate and enter the bar in Florida. Bruce, tell us what your plans are after you get out well, after I graduate. Of course, I have two years in the Navy, and though I don't do not have an assignment as of yet, I may end up in the Far East as John after the Navy.

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My plans are a little bit up in the air. I haven't quite decided exactly what I'd like to do, finally, and I'm just going to postpone that decision for one or two more years. It's interesting to me to know what young people are thinking about in college now.

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We've just had the civil rights bill down, and here in Washington, what was the general? What's the general reaction to civil rights building your school as you see it, John. Well, first, I must qualify my statement in that the great majority of students do not know what the civil rights bill entails.

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They have little or no idea exactly what are the provisions and what do they stand for and what will be the consequences that general feelings of the bill itself is that if it has not passed, it will only exacerbate the present tensions, which are now threatening to record society in United States.

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In other words, you gather that most of them think it ought to pass just on general grounds. Yes, sir Bruce, How about it up in Connecticut, where you go to school? What do they think about it? Yale. That's basically the same feeling. I don't believe that.

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Well, I'd say 90% of the boys are even more than that, really do not know what the bill entails. As John said, they have no idea what the provisions and what are the far reaching effects. But there's a general feeling that it's a civil rights bill, and therefore it ought to pass and anybody who would think of a minute or voting against it.

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There's some wild eyed man from the woods or something. It's a shame. Now we've just got 45 seconds left. Here, let me ask you, what do you feel about the war in South Vietnam? You're gonna be out there, but very briefly. What do you think about it?

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I think that we have to win it, period. You think that we have to stay out there and win it? That's what you're saying. Bruce, what is your reaction to the situation in South Vietnam? I don't think we have any choice. It's a tiara to the Far East.

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We have Brummer. You have South Vietnam. You have Laos. That whole area, which is very rich in minerals and resources. You have Indonesia right below that. And if we lose, this area of the other areas will fall in succession. So therefore you approve of this program which the government has going forward and winning the battle against the Communist.

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They're very definitely. All right, Well, thank you very much, men, for being with me on this program. And thank you very much, Ladies and gentlemen, for looking in. I hope you'll look in again at the same time next week. Now, let's stop. I decided half through that we weren't going to be able to.

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We're not going to be