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scene one. Take 15 60 to smother. Mm. On today's report from Washington, Senator Smathers discusses domestic and foreign problems of interest to the people of Florida and the nation. Now, here is the first question Senator matters. What is the situation in regard to the civil rights matter at this time?

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Well, we're going to by the time the people see this telecast and hear this radio broadcast while we will have voted on the jury trial amendment and I'm satisfied there will have been some amendment adopted, I don't think that it will have gone far enough to suit those of us who genuinely believe in jury trials.

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We think jury trials are associated with the man's liberty any man, irrespective of his race, color or creed, and that we should have a guarantee in this legislation and, as a matter of fact, all legislation where a person can be held in criminal contempt, it should be guaranteed to that person a jury trial.

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That was what was intended by the writers of our Constitution. The other day when you were speaking on the floor, an unusual event took place, which seldom happens. I wonder if you could tell our listeners about it. Well, I was speaking, and all of a sudden man in the gallery stood up and began to make a speech.

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Contrary to me, the man in the chair was unable to quiet him down, and he was talking and getting a considerable more attention than I was getting, I might add, and because nobody, the sergeant of Arms could apparently not get to this man. And he kept talking very loudly.

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I finally decided the only thing for me to do was to keep talking and sort of out shouting. Somebody wrote said, It's the first time the filibuster had been filibustered, but he certainly did do that to me. You made a remark to gathering the other day, a proposal of that which I thought was pretty good.

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I wonder if you'd mind repeating that relative to taking this man out of the gallery. As I remember, you said, I think that somebody asked, Well, did they take the right man out of the gallery? Those are those are yes, yes, yes, well, I was later down in New Orleans that night making a speech, a Democratic group, and I mentioned the fact that the police had come in and that finally taking him out and there was some question as to whether or not they had taken the right person out of the Senate.

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I'd like to ask you point blank. Do you think that there will a civil rights bill be passed? Yes, There will be a civil rights bill in my judgment be passed. I think it will be not this bill, but it will be considerably amended. I don't I still don't believe the civil There is any need for a civil rights bill.

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I agree with the objectives which those people who sponsored this civil rights legislation claim that they're trying to achieve. I think the only way to achieve achieve that, however, is through biracial committees through a broader understanding of people within their communities, particularly through the church organizations.

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I think that in providing better education for all of our people both colored and white people, I'd like to ask you a question on Cuba, which you are quite an expert on. What do you feel about your very generous with me to say? I'm quite an excellent I stop my remark.

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It's a remark of your colleagues, but we're going to have locomotives shipped into that island. Now. What is that going to mean? Well, the French, of course, have not followed the United States policy on anything lately, and it seems a shame. Now what they're planning to do is, of course, ship 20 locomotives to Fidel Castro's Cuba.

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This is a great benefit to Castro because the only way he can get the sugar cane in from the field into the refineries is by the use of these locomotives and the other other locomotives, which he has had which of American make most of them they've worn out.

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Now this is a very bad thing in so far as our policy is concerned, where we are trying to economically boycott him and demonstrate to the Cuban people first that the Communist system does not work, secondly, that throughout Latin America they can say that the communist system does not work.

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Thirdly, they can see that the Soviet Union is not actually going way out of between the longer to help Fidel Castro. And fourthly, we cannot help but think it would weaken Castro if he did not have any of this help to the point where he finally can be overthrown by Cubans, which is what eventually I hope will happen and what I think will happen and what I think we must encourage.

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Secretary Russ seems to feel that we can't do much about Cuba, that the Cubans cannot revolt successfully. I think that they can, and I believe that in time that they will. And certainly if we will free the exiles and set up a Cuban government in exile and let it operate and give it to help it deserves, we can get rid of Fidel Castro.

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Thank you very much. Senator George Smathers Mhm On today's report from Washington, Senator Smathers discusses domestic and foreign problems of interest to the people of Florida and the nation. Now here is the first question Senator matters are likely to give us the situation as far as the civil rights is concerned.

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As of the time that we're doing this report, well, we're going to vote today on the jury trial amendment. Uh, my judgment is that the Morton Amendment, which is the first one will vote on, will not pass. Although most of us, uh, or conservative people, will vote for it, but eventually there will be a jury trial amendment put into this bill.

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I think that's desirable. I don't think, however, that the amendment which will finally go in, which is the Dirks and Mansfield amendment, is broad enough. Goes far enough, I believe, as do the great liberals of the past believe that every man is entitled to a jury trial when he's called up before a court and charged with criminal contempt and three times in the Constitution of the United States.

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They talk about the necessity of providing for every individual citizen a jury trial when he's charged with crimes. Now I think that's a fundamental right that we should continue to have available to every citizen in these United States, because the acceptance and the passage of this amendment indicate it's a forerunner of the capitulation of the faithful 18 Southern senators.

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I would say there's no capitulation. I think that, however, that we they're just so few others remaining out of the 100 senators that there is going to be passed a civil rights bill. It will be amended in some respects. I hope it will be amended substantially.

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Frankly, I don't believe we need a civil rights bill. I do agree with the trying to achieve the objectives which the sponsors say that they're trying to achieve. But I don't believe you can achieve those objectives by putting on a lot of laws on the books and giving to the attorney general and the federal government authority to regulate people's businesses or people's lives or schools and things of that character.

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I think you can accomplish the same thing by having a better understanding resulting from biracial committees. More active work within the church is a better education for both white and Negro students, and I think that's the way it should be accomplished on the lighter side. Recently, you were speaking on the Senate floor against the civil rights measure.

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You were participated in this discussion by somebody from the gallery. What happened there? Oh, yeah, well, the fella stood up in the gallery while I was talking and began to make a speech, and apparently the guards couldn't get to him, and he was talking considerably louder and apparently with some more success than I because everybody started listening to him and looking at him.

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And finally, however, the police did get to him and they took him out and it was some paper said it was the first time a filibuster had been filibustered himself from the gallery, and then some of my opponents even went so far to say that the police came and took out the wrong man.

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But in any event, it was a unique experience back to serious matters. You follow the activities of Castro very closely in the Cuban situation. What about the French shipping these locomotives to? I think it's a very bad thing. I think de Gaulle's government in the last two years, of course, has worked against or has at least worked opposite to our The United States has pronounced policies.

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Now, shipping these locomotives to Fidel Castro will help him more than anything that you we could hardly think of because he has to get the sugar cane from the fields into the refineries, and the only way he can get it in is by using these locomotives, and that's what he wants to do.

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I think if we can continue to follow our strong policy, a very strong policy of economically boycotting him and at the same time, releasing the Cuban exiles to operate against him. I think that those combination policies will eventually bring Castro down. I think it's very important that we do that because we must demonstrate first that communism will not work in Cuba.

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Secondly, that it will not work anywhere in Central and South America and that it should have no appeal, thirdly, that the Soviet Union is not going to go to any great lengths to help this communist country. And fourthly, we must demonstrate that by continued effort and continued pressure, we have brought Fidel Castro down and that the United States has never given up in its battle to get rid of communism in this hemisphere and, as a matter of fact, defeat communism ideologically throughout the world.

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Thank you very much, Senator George Smathers. In addition to the Cuban problem, we now have this British Guiana situation where we have colored and Indians a racial situation. Now. Are the Communists active in that? Oh, yes. As a matter of fact, the Communist almost controlled totally controlled that country.

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I think it's been rather well established that Jagan and his wife, or certainly was, But I think at one time she admitted that she herself was the communist. So the Communists are in this particular country up to their necks, their, however having this experience, which shows that they even have racial discrimination even within a so called communist country.

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And the Communists can't solve it any better than anybody else can. Because here you have Negro citizens who are objecting to East Indian citizens. And so it goes and they're fighting amongst each other and the Communist and point if I could try and to get that particular thing settled.

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But that's just within people. So it just goes to show that you can do all kinds of things. You can even have a police state, and you can't eliminate finally, the way people feel about each other. Now let's look back at this country, Senator, we saw Governor Wallace of Alabama Paul.

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A pretty good sized vote in Indiana, I believe, was somewhere in the order of 30%. Would you say that this is an indication that people are beginning to realize what this civil rights bill means to them? That's what I said with respect to this bill when he won in Wisconsin and you got some 33% of the vote there.

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I've always maintained that's correct, that this is This does demonstrate that there is a that realization that this bill goes too far, that it will not accomplish what it's claimed to be accomplished further than that it gives to the federal government authority regulate and control people's lives.

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If the federal government is a basic premise, has the right to tell people who and what they have to serve, who they have to serve and how they serve them. In fact, then, of course, they can control wages and hours, which they can finally prices. And the whole thing is just another extension of the arm of the federal government into people's private business.

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And I think it's a very dangerous thing. I'd like to ask you something about Florida itself. We were very glad to see that our senior senator special Holland, came through very fine, but I understand there is going to have to be a runoff down there for one of the major political offices in the state to what do you attribute that rather close vote of the two leaders?

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Well, I think that there were six candidates and actually, the the six candidates all got a very respectable vote. And the mayor, Haydon Burns of Jacksonville, of course, got the top vote and Mayor Qinghai of Miami second then, But Dickinson Scott Kelly were very close to in the third spot as Jack Mac Carl came in in the next spot.

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And then Matthews was also got a quite a respectable vote, even though he came in last in that particular race. I think that actually, in this case, we had the situation where we had a number of we had a number of good candidates and with the result that no one just stood out above all the rest of them, to the extent that he could run off with the race.

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It'll be a good race now in May 27th, when the primary runoff occurs, and I'm sure that the people of Florida will turn out in large numbers as they did in this first primary to elect a governor. My own part will be that of a private citizen.

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I expect to cast my vote again as I did before. Uh, and I think the best man will win, Of course, in a primary situation. Ah, being a true American, you've got a pretty much sit on the sidelines and not express your viewpoint for either candidate.

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So yes, I don't. I will not ask the next logical question which normally would be done. But I would like to ask you, How is the economy of the state of Florida? Is it on the upturn, or is it very much? Very much Our our economy is moving forward quite rapidly.

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We're pleased with it. We're going to have with still the fastest growing state in the Union. We don't have any noticeable or measurable unemployment except amongst our certain Cuban groups resulting from, of course, the situation in Cuba. We've had a tremendous tourist year thus far. I think it will continue to be.

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The Citrus crop has been excellent. We're doing well in the cattle industry. We're extending our sugar cane operations of fresh fruit and vegetable operations. All in all, Florida is very much on the move. Thank you very much, Senator Smathers, Until next week I return you to your station announcer