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How do you do? Ladies and gentlemen, this is a second in a series of interviews with our presidential candidates, and I'm particularly pleased and proud to have as my guest at this time. My very dear friend, the senator from Missouri store assignment, Senator Symington. I've been asking.

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I'm going to ask all these candidates roughly the same questions so that the people of Florida will be able to make some comparison in their own minds. Among these candidates. First question which I would like to ask you is, what do you think is wrong with our present foreign policy?

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First, Senator, I want to tell you what a privilege it is to be on this program with you. Now, as regards our foreign policy, you and I know that planning is the most important aspect of American life private business. And in our overall picture, as a country we plan.

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It seems to me that we do not have any planning in our foreign policy. We continue to let events create our policies instead of establishing policies which create events. And I think many things that are going around the world today one very close to your great state approved that from the standpoint of foreign policy, in effect, we never move unless we're shoved.

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But I certainly agree with that, in particular in the area to which you have reference. We've got only a policy of hope there. And we ask you this question. What are your views about these disarmament proposals? What do you think the United States should do? And how far should we go in this matter of agreeing to disarmament with the Soviet Union?

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Well, I know you'll agree with me that the primary purpose and plan, an ideal of every public servant, should be to do whatever he can to attain a just and a lasting peace for the world. To my mind, the way that that peace can best be attained is through some form of mutually agreed upon violation proof disarmament plan.

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I think that the president's last statement about it was constructive, and I would hope that he would continue to do whatever is necessary without at the same time involving our national honor to get us that peace through agreement in this field. You don't know agree that in any fashion that we should enter into any sort of a capitulation or what would appear to be an appeasement program.

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However, in order to get this disarmament? No. Indeed, Based on the record, I would hope that we never agreed to anything Where if these people do not live up to their word, we find ourselves in a helpless position like so many other countries have that trusted them Now, Senator, before you became a senator, you were the first secretary of the Air Force.

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And since becoming a senator, you've spent a good deal of your time in the studying about our failures are alleged failures in this field of defense vis a vis the Soviet Union. What are your views on this so called missile gap in our general overall defense posture as compared to that of the Soviet Union?

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Um, let's summarize it as quickly as I can. Three things the United States needs, in my opinion, to say strong. So it's just a free number one. We should be able to get up if we're hit off the ground and destroy. And he would be attacker and number two.

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As you and I both know, nobody starts a war if they don't think they can win it. And therefore, uh, we should be sure that any possible aggressor has that information about our strength as well as ourselves. Finally, we should be able to wage effectively, we hope, successfully a limited war.

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They've been 20 wars since World War two, and they've all been limited. Such a war would protect ourselves and our commitments to our allies. Now, in my opinion, we have the third or rather, we have not the third at this time or not in a position to handle properly limited conflict.

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Because we have not done what we should have done for our army and our Marines. I believe we do have the capacity to destroy an enemy and an all out nuclear war. But if we don't change our plans now radically and deeply, we won't have it in the not too distant future.

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And that means we won't have one or two. That's the way I would summarize it. As our defense structure is today. I've noticed what you've said. That you thought that by a reorganization the Defense Department that there could be a lot of money saved. Would you briefly comment on that?

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Yes, I would I think you could save at least $10 billion a year if we truly reorganized our Defense Department. That was the testimony may I add that was presented in Washington of some three weeks ago by four outstanding citizens, all Republicans, all great experienced Americans, the secretary of former secretary defense, Mr Levitt, chairman of Federal Reserve in Boston.

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Mr Sprague, the President Williams College. Dr Baxter and the head of the International Business Machines Corporation, Mr Tom Watson. In effect, all those men made three points. One we're not doing enough to We can afford to do a lot more than three. If we don't, we're going to find ourselves in very serious trouble.

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Indeed, May I add at this point, Senator that there's an article in Life magazine this week about the problems of the Pentagon building in the organization? Any objective American who reads that article? We'll see at least as clearly as I have ever seen it written what could be saved in this field.

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And it's not only a question of saving money, this article shows clearly that because of the of the structure and operation, we are not getting a proper security in itself. Now, suddenly, let's switch just for a moment to the domestic fuel. If you get to be president and and then be calling you like everyone else.

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President, what would ask president what would be views with respect to what we should do about the elderly people of this nation in this country today, three out of every five people 65 years old or more have an income of less than $20 a week. And we have three more elderly people.

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That is, people 65 or over every day. I believe those people who are reaching the autumn of their life, who made their contribution should obtain from the rest of the people of the United States far more consideration, as should the retarded, the crippled and the blind.

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Then they have received today that recognition is automatically interpreted into the economy from the standpoint of additional buying power, poverty, disease and ignorance. I have always thought, with the three greatest allies of communism, and I am certain and if I may say so, I'm sure you agree, Senators matters that we must do more for these people than we're doing today.

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Senator. We, of course, in are greatly concerned about these so called civil rights. The claims. What would be your view point with respect to the so called civil rights legislation? Well, I'm an American who believes in the Constitution of the United States. The court, The Supreme Court has rendered a decision, and I believe that all Americans are obligated to do their best to enforce the law.

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Senator, there have been some discussion about the fact that you have not entered into some of these presidential primaries. Do you feel that you have not been a as active as you should have been a genuine candidate because you have meant to do the primaries? No, I do not.

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There are 50 states. There are only 15 primaries today. We have only four contested primaries, and I don't see why the 107 delegates of the 1521 delegates who go to Chicago should be the ones to decide less than 7% of the total. Who should be the nominee next July?

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And as you know, I wouldn't have entered this race for the presidency if I did not believe that my experience in private industry for a great many years in the executive side of government. And now, for some eight years, having the honor to serve with you in the Senate.

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I did not believe that those experiences, uh, justified my, uh, my seeking this position. Well, that was the last question which was going to ask you what you anticipated. I'm sorry. I didn't know why. Why? Why should the delegates from Florida select you as the presidential nominee at the convention?

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Well, it's a little delicate the way you put it, but I hope they would look at my record, and I would hope that they would select me. All right, Well, thank you very much. Senator Stuart Symington of Missouri. I know that the people of Florida very much appreciate your forthright opinions on these matters which I have raised with you.

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And thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, for looking again and listen again. I hope you're looking again at the next broadcast. Mhm.