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say it wouldn't take 16 91. Smathers, huh? I will say that, Hubert, This is short is for Bill Buyers Program, which will be used Sunday afternoon. And most of that discussion will be about civil rights. Now, you, as the leader of the civil rights forces in the Senate, have now come in along with Senator Dirksen and others with a new package.

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I wish you'd briefly tell us what changes have been made in the new amendments or the new substitute that you fellas have offered. Well, George, we have offered, uh, an amendment in the nature of a substitute. That's the technical phrase. What we've done is to rewrite substantial portions of the House passed Bill.

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And I believe that what we've done is to improve the bill to improve the language, make it more precise, keep it from spreading into areas where the congressional intent did not expect it to go. We've taken entitled to, for example, in public accommodations. And we've called We've added language that would, first of all, calling to play the local and state governments in terms of guaranteeing equal access to public accommodations such as restaurants and motels and hotels.

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We rely a great deal upon voluntary compliance. We provide a gap of time, uh, 90 days, uh, for local and state authorities to try to work these things out through voluntary compliance and through local enforcement. But the right of the citizen is ultimately protected if this local authority does not succeed in getting observance of the law, what we've sought, what we have really sought to do is to recognize that these civil rights problems are essentially community problems and personal problems, and they ought to be handled as close to the locality and the community as possible.

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Now entitled six. That's where we cut off, where there is a provision for the cut off of federal funds in case there is a discriminatory use of those funds. You may recall that many of your colleagues and my colleagues argued about that title rather vociferously and sometimes excitedly what we did, what we wanted them, Yes, and and may I say that argument produced real results.

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What we did was to tie it down so that if there were to be any cut off, it would only be on the project. There wouldn't be any statewide punishment or harassment. It wouldn't even be on a total program. It would be in the area on the project in the locality.

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And besides that, we provide a long period of time with the elaborate procedures to seek compliance again, to talk to people about these matters, an attempt to work them out on a voluntary basis. But the enforcement power still remains and finally entitled seven, which is the highly controversial title on fair employment practices.

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We rewrote that we limited the application. Are they are the area to be covered? We saw to it, for example, that first, all cases will be initiated at a local and state level. We call upon the states to establish their own State Fair Employment Practices Commission.

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We provide for the individual to seek redress of his grievance on his own right, going through the local and state commission and into the courts. If, however, he does not receive any, uh, redress of what he thinks is a grievance, he can then appeal to the national commission.

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But the national commission can only look at it and investigated. It cannot prosecute the case for him. He must, as an individual, still prosecute his own case in court, but he can receive cooperation from the court. However, if we find a pattern of of unfair practices or of discriminatory practices, then the attorney general may move in.

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If he sees fit to try to, uh, provide for compliance within the law, let me ask you to brief questions. Do you think now that with this so called compromise and change in the original bill that you will have enough votes to bring the debate to a close?

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In other words, to get closer, Senator, I do and George, I really think we will have, and I hope we will. I'll be frank with you. I think that we've debated this long enough and that there ought to be a decision. I'm not at all sure that we can prevail in all of these matters.

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Amendments will be offered. There are 160 or so and when amendments at the desk, and I believe you have a number of yourself and we'll vote on these amendments up and down. There will be no effort made to try to shun them aside or or push them aside, uh, whether the bill will come through as we want it.

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That's something I can't predict. But what I do ask, and I wish the goodness that we could get everybody to agree on. This is the right to vote on the bill. All right. Thank you very much. Hubert Humphrey, for that expression of your views with respect to the new civil rights bill, mhm.