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here in the nation's capital is Senator George Smathers to discuss some of our money problems with the people of Florida. Senator Smathers. I think first we ought to have a word on our foreign aid problems. Uh, what's your stand on that? Cuts or no cuts? Well in the Foreign Relations Committee at the present time, we're considering the authorization bureau, and we've already provided for some six $100 million worth of cuts below that amount, which the president has asked.

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It appears that there's going to be in addition to a $100 million cut. And I would venture to say that we'll find that a good deal of the water and the fat and the duplication which has existed in this program will be squeezed out. I would not like to see us go so far in our cuts that we really emasculate the Alliance for Progress Program.

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I think the Latin America is terribly important to the future of the United States, and we need to evidence our leadership, and we need to help those people there so that the Communists, they don't go by Castro, they're not able to succeed there as they did in Cuba, and I would not like to see us go to strongly in cutting the Alliance for Progress.

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But the other areas of the world, and particularly those areas where the countries don't cooperate with us anyway, As far as I'm concerned, I would be in favor of cuts. Some people have indicated that our foreign aid program is departing somewhat from our bipartisan approach, which we normally had.

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I think that there is some evidence of that. Xander Vandenberg many years ago have developed a bipartisan foreign policy which helped us through World War Two and the Korean War and several episodes since then. And I think it's unfortunate when politics doesn't stop at the water's edge.

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And I'm afraid that recently we have begun to see a deterioration of this bipartisanship with respect to foreign policy, and there's a considerable politics being played. I think it's the country's lost the nation's loss in the free world loss. Of course, foreign aid means money, and that immediately brings up the question of our tax program.

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Many of the people in Florida would like to know Are we going to get one this year? Well, I had originally said on these programs and other places that we were going to have a tax cut. I felt confident that we were. But I must say that the slow pace with which we have been proceeding, I have become very dubious that we will now.

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I'm certain that if the leadership I decided to bring up in the Senate the civil rights Bill Pryor to the tax consideration of tax bill that the discussion of the civil rights bill will go on at such great length that there will not be an opportunity for us to have that and a tax cut.

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So having been advised by the leadership that they're going to have the civil rights build up this year, it looks like to me that they're going to have to forego any kind of a tax cut Senator, many of your foreign friends and your cook close colleagues have assumed importance of position.

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Probably the most recent one is Ambassador Lodge, who used to be in the Senate. Of course I'm wondering what do you feel that there is going to be any immediate change there and that serious situation which faces us in South Vietnam well, Indeed, that's one of the most, if not the most serious situation which we face at the moment.

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And I was thought that President made a very wise choice in choosing a man of the competence and the experience of Henry Cabot Lodge are former representative to the United Nations and a man well versed in that area of the world. To go out there is our ambassador.

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People ask me and write me. Why don't we get out of Vietnam? And that's an easy solution and it may be that we'll have to do it. But if we do it, of course, we give up that area of the world and the Communist with all those people and all those rich resources which are out there and just we do not want to do.

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I don't believe actually that we can determine what we're going to do in South Vietnam until we have given Henry Cabot Lodge an opportunity to sort of get his feet on the ground and let him make an assessment other conditions as they exist there and then follow pretty much his recommendation.

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The red Chinese seem to be the ones that were back of all this operation in South Vietnam. But yet we have Khrushchev going around and sorting to indicate that everything is peace and roses. Does that widen the schism between red China and the Russian Communist? I think so.

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I think the shoes, um, is genuine. I think it's real. I think it's growing. I think that more and more you're going to see the Soviet Union pushed toward the Western world and become antagonistic towards the red Chinese. Thank you very much, Senator George Martin. So back here in this country, Senator, I noticed that the House bill that they approved carried several amendments relating to Cuba.

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Now, this was, of course, I believe on, uh had directly to do with expenditures for Cuba and similar nations. Now, when the bill comes before the Senate, since you've been studying this problem in your committee on foreign Relations, do you have any amendments that might be of a similar nature?

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Well, I in the bill that we are considering in the Senate we have I have an amendment which would automatically eliminate any aid going to any country that allowed its ships or its airplanes to carry on in commerce with Cuba. And however, there are several other amendments of a similar nature that will be offered, and I don't know which one of these will finally be adopted.

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But it's going to be very clear in this legislation that we don't want any of the aid to go to a country which continues to defy and affect our wishes and with respect to their dealing with Cuba. Now, looking at the House side again, it seems that the House Labor Committee does this quite frequently.

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But they have now come up with another Fair Employment practices bill, which will force the hiring of certain employees. What's your stand still was saying? Well, my son, of course, is against the PPC, as we call it. I have verb vigorously believed that wherever a man runs, has his own private money and his business that he has the right to hire whomever he wants.

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And this is a basic, personal, fundamental right of American constitutional life, and I don't believe that there should be anybody, any government agency who tried to tell him who he's got to hire, and I think it would be a great loss to our free enterprise system and our constitutional government if we adopted such a thing as a PPC.

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Still, on one final question on this question of civil rights, Senator Governor Bryant testified in the Senate Commerce Committee. With regard to this public accommodations clause in the civil rights bill. How was his testimony received? But I thought actually, Governor Bryant made one of the most eloquent and persuasive statements in logical statements that had been made with respect to why the Congress should not adopt, uh, the so called public accommodation section.

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And what I liked about it was, he put it into proper perspective. He did not let him get away with the argument that these are human rights versus property rights. He he pointed out very clearly that the whole matter was a matter of personal rights, personal human rights.

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And the question was whether or not a person who had the right to own property that was his personal right to do with it what he wanted as long as it was his private money that owned it as long as it was his personally, and that if you forced him to do other than what he personally wanted to do with it, then you took away from his personal right as well.

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And so he believed. And he argued. And as I said most persuasively, that to this section should not be adopted that it was a a fundamental violation of people's personal rights. Senator he was indicated that sometime within the next several weeks, we've had the privilege of having your two older boys on the program with us, with the young man's attitude on world conditions as they are today.

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I'd like use in school is opening so soon Uhh to give your comment on the seriousness of the dropouts that we're having in the secondary school. Well, I think it's the most unfortunate that we see so many young people who don't continue their education. I think it's becoming ever more clear that for a young man or a young woman to really enjoyed a full life, actually to get it themselves a adequate job to properly support themselves in the future and provide for a family, they have to have an education.

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And the competition for these better jobs is becoming so keen that if a person tries to compete, who has not had the advantage of a higher education. Why, then they suffer in this competition for the jobs and they pretty well relegate them to a sort of secondary position and throughout their the rest of their life.

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And I don't think that with the many opportunities that the young people have today to go to the junior colleges which are springing up everywhere all over Florida to go to the universities which we have to go to the many schools which are available to them for this higher education that they should fail, they should not fail to take advantage of this opportunity in their own interest in the betterment of the nation.

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Thank you, Senator Smathers Senators Matters will report to you again next week. At this same time, I return you to your station announcer.